British Columbia

A year of trauma, catharsis, and finally peace for some survivors of Kamloops residential school

The year since the Tk'emlúps te Secwépemc First Nation announced that ground-penetrating radar had located the suspected grave sites in a former apple orchard has been one of national reckoning about residential schools in Canada.

Suspected unmarked graves were discovered at the site of the former Kamloops Indian Residential School

People wearing orange shirts stand in front of a stone monument surrounded by flowers, teddy bears and other tributes in front of the brick building that once housed the Kamloops Indian Residential School.
A monument outside the former Kamloops Indian Residential School to honour the children whose unmarked graves are believed to be on the site. (Ben Nelms/CBC)

WARNING: This story contains distressing details.

The nightmares started last May, said Harvey McLeod, chief of the Upper Nicola Indian Band and a survivor of the former Kamloops Indian Residential School.

They tormented McLeod for months after the discovery of as many as 215 suspected unmarked graves at the school he attended for two years.

Then one night he was visited in his dreams by a young girl who set him free.

"It's been tough on me and so wonderful at the same time," said McLeod.

The year since the Tk'emlúps te Secwépemc First Nation announced that ground-penetrating radar had located the suspected grave sites in a former apple orchard has been one of national reckoning about residential schools in Canada.

But for survivors of the residential school system it has meant much more: reawakened trauma, catharsis, and, for some, a kind of closure.

"There was a little girl by my right leg, always there," McLeod recalled of his dream. "I'd get up and walk and she'd be holding onto my leg or my hand. It seemed like everywhere I went that little girl was there."

The dream ended when the girl walked to a door, waved and left, he said.

"My conclusion was, I'm OK now and she's OK and she's going to go home," said McLeod, 68. "I think she was another child at the school that looked after me and I took care of her."

Percy Casper, a survivor of the former Kamloops residential school, is shown in Kamloops, B.C. in May 2022. Casper says he had a difficult year following the announcement of the discovery of an unmarked burial site, but found solace in the sympathies of strangers who approached him. (Dirk Meissner/The Canadian Press)

Percy Casper, 73, spent 10 years at the Kamloops school. He said he was distraught and angry when he heard the announcement.

"The last year I really had to bear down and go back to my ceremonial life and roots," said Casper, a member of the Bonaparte Indian Band near Cache Creek. "When I first found out about the 215 [unmarked graves], I was like a rubber band. I was maxed out and I was ready to snap."

The former U.S. Marine and Vietnam War veteran said he found peace following a summer solstice ceremony last June at a healing location near Cache Creek.

A mother grizzly bear and three cubs watched in the distance as salmon, venison and berries were left at the sacred site. They emerged from the forest to eat the offerings as he prepared to leave, said Casper, who took their visit as a sign to find strength.

"It was up to me to revisit myself spiritually, and say, 'Hey, you have to help yourself. You've got kids. You've got grandkids and you have people,"' he said. "So, I'm very proud to say I'm guilty of helping my people."

Professor Nicole Schabus, an Indigenous and environmental law expert at Thompson Rivers University at Kamloops, is shown in Kamloops, B.C. in May 2022. Schabus says many Kamloops residential school survivors had a difficult year following the discovery of an unmarked burial site at the former school. (Dirk Meissner/The Canadian Press)

Prof. Nicole Schabus, an Indigenous and environmental law expert at Thompson Rivers University in Kamloops, said upset survivors started calling her in the hours following the announcement about the suspected graves last May.

"Immediately, it flashed the survivors back to being children again and it brought the intergenerational trauma," she said.

Many told her about dreams of seeing little boys standing alone, said Schabus.

"It took them a long time to actually realize they were looking at themselves," she said, adding that many survivors recognized they were ready to move on from their experiences.

Mike Arnouse, 79, spent 11 years at the Kamloops school. He said the past year has seen him renew his commitment to living in unity with the land.

"There's a cycle of life and we belong in that cycle," he said. "The birds know what to do. The four-legged animals know what to do. The fish know what to do, but do we?"

The Adams Lake Indian Band member said residential schools were built to take Indigenous people off the land and impose the Western world on them.

"They've been practising on us for 500 years," he said. "I always make the joke, 'I was the smartest one in Grade 2 for eight years.' "

History of abuse at former school

The Kamloops residential school operated between 1890 and 1969, when the federal government took over operations from the Catholic Church and ran it as a day school until it closed in 1978.

A 4,000-page report in 2015 by the National Truth and Reconciliation Commission detailed harsh mistreatment at the schools, including emotional, physical and sexual abuse of children, and at least 4,100 deaths at the institutions.

The report cited records of at least 51 children dying at the Kamloops school between 1914 and 1963. Health officials in 1918 believed children at the school were not being adequately fed, leading to malnutrition, the report noted.

Residential school survivor Garry Gottfriedson, an internationally known poet, is shown outside his home in Kamloops, B.C. in May 2022. Gottfriedson says any gestures of kindness, compassion or recognition go a long way to healing the wounds of Canada’s residential school past. (Dirk Meissner/The Canadian Press)

Kamloops survivor Garry Gottfriedson, 69, said the past year had been emotionally draining for the members of Tk'emlúps te Secwépemc, who were unable to mourn in private.

"This was such a public thing," he said.

Gottfriedson, 69, an internationally known poet who provides curriculum advice to Thompson Rivers University in Kamloops on Secwépemc Nation protocols and cultural practices, said community members still struggled with anxiety about the discovery and the next steps for the site, including exhumation.

Shoes and stuffed animals are photographed on the grounds of the former Kamloops Indian Residential School.
Shoes and stuffed animals are photographed on the grounds of the former Kamloops Indian Residential School in June, 2021 at a memorial to honour the remains of as many as 215 children discovered buried there. (Ben Nelms/CBC)

"It's different than a graveyard because we know the people who are taken to a graveyard and buried there," he said. "It's settled. But there's so many unknowns with the 215 bodies. Those kids are buried in our yard. It's a constant reminder."

McLeod said the discovery of the unmarked graves at Kamloops had forced individuals, institutions and countries to face their past.

"It's going to take some time, but it changed all of us in one way or another," he said.


Support is available for anyone affected by their experience at residential schools or by the latest reports.

A national Indian Residential School Crisis Line has been set up to provide support for former students and those affected. People can access emotional and crisis referral services by calling the 24-hour national crisis line: 1-866-925-4419.


Do you have information about unmarked graves, children who never came home or residential school staff and operations? Email your tips to CBC's new Indigenous-led team investigating residential schools: [email protected].